a long misunderstanding of the word..."genocide" i still dont really get it.

but i do understand what it is that he is saying.

Ihavepantsonme (7:49:44 PM): i was argueing with eli
Ihavepantsonme (7:49:49 PM): and i want you opinion
MStarfeDW (7:49:54 PM): Alright
Ihavepantsonme (7:50:02 PM): the word "genocide"
Ihavepantsonme (7:50:06 PM): what does it mean
Ihavepantsonme (7:50:35 PM): the attempt, or the act with completion
MStarfeDW (7:50:45 PM): Well I think its fairly easy to root out the meaning
MStarfeDW (7:51:16 PM): The first part "Geno" comes from the old greek "Genos" which means race, and cide is the old english for the act of killing
MStarfeDW (7:51:27 PM): So it means race killing
Ihavepantsonme (7:52:04 PM): ok...
MStarfeDW (7:52:48 PM): As for attempting or completeing
MStarfeDW (7:53:27 PM): Its both really
Ihavepantsonme (7:53:31 PM): so, if i kill a jew it is concitered genocide. if my reasoning is cuz he is a jew?
MStarfeDW (7:53:42 PM): God no
MStarfeDW (7:53:44 PM): Thats just murder
Ihavepantsonme (7:53:47 PM): lol
MStarfeDW (7:53:51 PM): And a hate crime
Ihavepantsonme (7:54:05 PM): well i would be race killing then
MStarfeDW (7:54:07 PM): Genocide is a systematic and well thought out extermination of an ethnic group
Ihavepantsonme (7:54:31 PM): ok so how many does it have to be to be concited genocide?
MStarfeDW (7:54:33 PM): Its not about killing because of race, its about wiping out the race
Ihavepantsonme (7:54:40 PM): ok
MStarfeDW (7:54:55 PM): The standard these days is the Holocaust
Ihavepantsonme (7:55:08 PM): so what is the difference between "genocide" and "mass genocide"
MStarfeDW (7:55:12 PM): But Genocide happens all the time in Africa
Ihavepantsonme (7:55:29 PM): is "mass genocide" smaller because of the double negative
Ihavepantsonme (7:55:47 PM): or larger due to the modifier?
MStarfeDW (7:55:52 PM): Mass Genocide is usually the same thing, just with an extra word to make it seem worse
Ihavepantsonme (7:56:00 PM): propaganda?
MStarfeDW (7:56:01 PM): But it could also be the extermination of multiple races
MStarfeDW (7:56:19 PM): I would not say that someone refering to the Holocaust as "Mass Genocide" is propganda
Ihavepantsonme (7:57:06 PM): if their i no difference between "genocide" and "mas genocide" it would have to be propaganda
MStarfeDW (7:57:27 PM): No
MStarfeDW (7:57:29 PM): No it does not
MStarfeDW (7:57:33 PM): Like what I just did
MStarfeDW (7:57:42 PM): I said "No"
MStarfeDW (7:57:42 PM): And then "No it does not"
MStarfeDW (7:57:56 PM): Its just making a point of the fact that many many people are dying
Ihavepantsonme (7:58:29 PM): if they mean the same thing and the "mass" makes it more impacting then it is propaganda
Ihavepantsonme (7:58:41 PM): no matter if it is justicied
Ihavepantsonme (7:58:46 PM): right or wrong
MStarfeDW (7:59:21 PM): Propagation is systematic
MStarfeDW (7:59:54 PM): If someone throws a single word modifier in front of something to emphasize it is not usually propaganda
Ihavepantsonme (8:00:33 PM): yes
Ihavepantsonme (8:00:40 PM): it throws a slant
MStarfeDW (8:00:50 PM): No, it doesnt
Ihavepantsonme (8:01:00 PM): how not?
MStarfeDW (8:01:22 PM): Because we dont use genocide properly in English anyway
MStarfeDW (8:01:22 PM): The Holocaust is refered to as "A genocide"
MStarfeDW (8:01:27 PM): But that is actually propaganda
MStarfeDW (8:01:36 PM): Because it really is mass genocide
MStarfeDW (8:01:41 PM): Because it wasn't just Jews
Ihavepantsonme (8:01:48 PM): ok
Ihavepantsonme (8:02:08 PM): agreed
MStarfeDW (8:02:09 PM): So the fact that we don't always use the word properly allows us to modify it without propagating a damn thing
Ihavepantsonme (8:02:18 PM): ...
Ihavepantsonme (8:02:27 PM): not contiously
Ihavepantsonme (8:02:37 PM): not to and unintellect
Ihavepantsonme (8:02:49 PM): wow my grammer makes me feel like an idiot
MStarfeDW (8:02:57 PM): Grammar is spelled with an a
Ihavepantsonme (8:03:05 PM): i knew that
Ihavepantsonme (8:03:12 PM): lol
Ihavepantsonme (8:03:32 PM): ok....so
Ihavepantsonme (8:03:48 PM): it is propaganda in the true meaning of the word
Ihavepantsonme (8:04:07 PM): but cuz we dont speak true english it dont mean a damn thing?
MStarfeDW (8:04:21 PM): If everyone used Genocide correctly
Ihavepantsonme (8:04:31 PM): the holocaust wasnt.
MStarfeDW (8:04:36 PM): And only a single group was killed
MStarfeDW (8:04:45 PM): Then it would be "A genocide"
Ihavepantsonme (8:05:03 PM): mass makes it multiple groups
Ihavepantsonme (8:05:05 PM): ok
MStarfeDW (8:05:07 PM): But of course, given the nature of the crime, you would be a total douche to complain about someone calling it a "Mass genocide"
Ihavepantsonme (8:05:24 PM): ok.....lol
MStarfeDW (8:05:26 PM): Dont complain about that shit, its the mark of douche baggery
Ihavepantsonme (8:05:29 PM): i wasnt being a douche
Ihavepantsonme (8:05:43 PM): i wasnt talking about an event
MStarfeDW (8:05:48 PM): Slant and bias is perfectly natural
Ihavepantsonme (8:05:54 PM): agreed
MStarfeDW (8:06:09 PM): Claiming your countries leader as a God and having the people worship him
MStarfeDW (8:06:11 PM): Thats propaganda
Ihavepantsonme (8:06:49 PM): i thought that genocide was the act and completion of the extermination of a group
MStarfeDW (8:07:31 PM): No, that would be a succesful extermination
MStarfeDW (8:07:56 PM): Genocide is just the systematic murder of a particular group, succesful or not
Ihavepantsonme (8:07:58 PM): and the "mass" made it a double negative making it attempted genocide
MStarfeDW (8:08:09 PM): Double negative?
MStarfeDW (8:08:17 PM): Neither of those words negate anything
Ihavepantsonme (8:08:18 PM): the same idea
Ihavepantsonme (8:08:52 PM): a increasing modifier to a word the is allready the max
Ihavepantsonme (8:08:56 PM): an*
Ihavepantsonme (8:09:14 PM): because i thought that genocide was the max
Ihavepantsonme (8:09:22 PM): but not according to you
MStarfeDW (8:09:37 PM): Extinction is the max
Ihavepantsonme (8:09:43 PM): correct
Ihavepantsonme (8:09:58 PM): i thought genocide and extermination were the same
MStarfeDW (8:10:18 PM): Yes
MStarfeDW (8:10:18 PM): They are
MStarfeDW (8:10:26 PM): A succesful extermination is an extinction
Ihavepantsonme (8:11:08 PM): but you said the genocide it the mass killing of a race. succesfull or not
MStarfeDW (8:11:16 PM): Yeah, because its an act
Ihavepantsonme (8:11:24 PM): ???
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MStarfeDW (8:13:48 PM): If a genocidal maniac starts killing Jews and plans to wipe all of them out, even if someone steps in and stops it, it was still a Genocide
Ihavepantsonme (8:14:02 PM): ok
Ihavepantsonme (8:14:15 PM): so how is it the same as ectinction?
Ihavepantsonme (8:14:21 PM): extinction
MStarfeDW (8:14:51 PM): Its not
Ihavepantsonme (8:14:56 PM): you said it was
MStarfeDW (8:15:11 PM): Extinction is what happens after you succesfully exterminate a group of people
MStarfeDW (8:15:15 PM): If your genocide works out
MStarfeDW (8:15:20 PM): Then thats extinction
MStarfeDW (8:15:28 PM): You're mixing extinction up with extermination
Ihavepantsonme (8:16:02 PM): Ihavepantsonme (8:09:58 PM): i thought genocide and extermination were the same
MStarfeDW (8:10:18 PM): Yes
MStarfeDW (8:10:18 PM): They are
MStarfeDW (8:16:08 PM): Yeah
MStarfeDW (8:16:09 PM): See
MStarfeDW (8:16:16 PM): You are mixing extermination and extinction up
Ihavepantsonme (8:16:21 PM): ok
MStarfeDW (8:16:47 PM): Here
MStarfeDW (8:16:52 PM): Ill use all 3 words in a damn sentence
Ihavepantsonme (8:17:01 PM): so genocide can be extinction or extermination
MStarfeDW (8:17:13 PM): If I exterminate every last Canadian in a brutal Genocide then Canadians are extinct
Ihavepantsonme (8:17:20 PM): lol
Ihavepantsonme (8:17:22 PM): YAY
MStarfeDW (8:17:29 PM): No, extinction is what happens AS A RESULT OF genocide/extermination
Ihavepantsonme (8:17:42 PM): ok
Ihavepantsonme (8:18:04 PM): but committing genocide doesnt allways mean it will lead to extinction
Ihavepantsonme (8:18:16 PM): itis planned
MStarfeDW (8:18:18 PM): No
MStarfeDW (8:18:20 PM): If you mess up
MStarfeDW (8:18:24 PM): Its still genocide
Ihavepantsonme (8:18:31 PM): but not extinction
MStarfeDW (8:18:32 PM): But the extinction probably isnt going to happen
Ihavepantsonme (8:18:38 PM): right
Ihavepantsonme (8:20:18 PM): you can commit genocide, but it wont allways lead to extinction
MStarfeDW (8:20:25 PM): Yes
Ihavepantsonme (8:20:45 PM): in order to become extinct you have to be exterminated
Ihavepantsonme (8:20:49 PM): aka
Ihavepantsonme (8:20:53 PM): genocide
MStarfeDW (8:20:57 PM): Yes
MStarfeDW (8:20:58 PM): There
Ihavepantsonme (8:20:59 PM): ok
MStarfeDW (8:20:59 PM): You've got it
Ihavepantsonme (8:21:02 PM): lolYAY
Ihavepantsonme (8:21:07 PM): lets party
Ihavepantsonme (8:21:16 PM): ok i have to go watch a movie...
Ihavepantsonme (8:21:18 PM): buh bi